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Tevia on Transformation Station

Category: Date: 1 January 2022 Comments: 0

Tevia 00:00

That’s like why when you’re in a car and you’re almost in an accident, you brace yourself. It’s an automatic reaction. And we’re having these automatic reactions all day. Now if you’re in you know, in a high-performance organization, the pressures on you’re already tense as it is. And you’re going through these tension states constantly, you have to be able to relieve the body of this tension so that the mind can relax because if the body is not relaxed, the mind can’t relax either.


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Tevia Welcome to your transformation station. Thank you.

Tevia 01:48

Well, good to be here.


Awesome. So you’ve reached out you have a very interesting background. You’ve been studying mixed martial arts for quite some time. Now. I’m a big fan of the martial arts community. I did Krav Maga for about four and a half months, five years, and I did military combative for a couple of years. So please, share with me your expertise and your understanding of your studies.

Tevia 02:18

Okay, well, yeah, I’m also a big fan of Krav Maga, I’ve been training Krav Maga for many, many years. And I absolutely love it. I think it’s got to be one of the most effective systems in the world, in terms of real-life, defense, and yeah, I mean, I’ve been doing martial arts Qigong meditation since I was seven years old. And as I was born with chronic illness, and my father didn’t want me to be in hospitals, and then with doctors and on medication my whole life. So he got me into Qigong, martial arts, and meditation. And so every day after school, that’s what I did. And I was very fortunate to grow up around some really potent masters that I was able to train along with. So I could heal myself. Fast forward.

Qigong for combat sports

Later, I was a teenager, I was in a brutal car accident. And doctors told me I had to have surgery on my spine, and on my knee. And I was scared. You know, I started going into the knife, I didn’t want to have surgery. And I went to my master. He said, Don’t do that yet, try this Qigong, that simple exercise, it was an undulation of my spine. And it was it really softened my spine. Now, I was in severe back pain, debilitating back pain for like, four years. But this Qigong day, by day, it relieved my back pain. And eventually, it completely healed it. I never had surgery. And now my back is better than most guys half my age. So I’m like, so I’m a real believer in it because I’ve seen what it could do for me. So I really, really, you know, for me, it was the greatest gift that I could have had. Yeah, to be able to have this practice.


I really I like that with taking a holistic approach, and health and medicine versus, just avoiding going to the doctor and seeing what you could do to remedy it yourself. Just using the simple exercises. Drinking-Water stretching, doing all this, definitely pays plays a benefit. But can you go a little bit more into your practices?

Tevia 04:35

Yeah. So basically, like now I specialize in what’s called medical Qigong. So, you know, I’ve done in terms of the practices, the martial arts, I’ve done, you know, I’ve done, I’ve done Shaolin Kung Fu I’ve done Bhagwa John, I’ve done Xing each one I’ve done, I’ve done Wing Chun, I’ve done the karate you know, you can invoke karate I’ve done Moy Thai in Thailand. Yeah. I’ve done mixed martial arts. Brazilian jujitsu. Yes, I trained with a couple of Navy SEALs, different Navy SEALs. I’ve done a variety of different weapons, Krav Maga, as I mentioned, I did that for many years. I yeah, that’s pretty much my background. I love it. I’ve done some other rather unknown martial arts as well. One called Schwinn whoo trend, which is a compilation of Tai Chi, Bhagwan Xingyi together. Okay. Oh,.And, yeah, I mean, that pretty much covers the gamut.

And, yeah, but I really what I do now really, what my specialty is is medical Qigong. I work with World Champion combat athletes. I got the North American Muay Thai champion as a student of mine, Sylvester Organica. He’s also a senior White Tiger Qigong instructor. I’ve got the world female champion, karate fighter of 2019. Do a Hussein, out of Kuwait. She’s badass. And she’s was also one of my students and a white tiger Qigong instructor. And she used the white tiger Qigong right before her final fight for the competition to concentrate her mind to hone her, her emotions, and her mind into a force that you know what she’s world champion, so you can’t argue with that. And she was doing that was doing the Qi Gong like we have the deer, which is this like, you know, it might look unusual to see some you know, world champion fighter like on the mat like doing this, like little deer frolic. But it totally changed her mindset and, and she went and won. So and that’s, that’s a 2000-year-old Qigong form that came from the Fatwa, who was a Chinese medicine physician to the Emperor over 2000 years ago. That’s an

interesting story in itself. I don’t know if you want to hear that but that guy watt watchers This guy, he if you get you should see the movie, Red Cliff. It’s so good. It’s one of my favorite all-time movies. And it’s about the Three Kingdoms back when they were having like this, this massive battle in China between these different kingdoms. And fatwa was the greatest Chinese medicine physician at the time. And the dictator towel. Use this guy as his you know, as his dog to treat him and he had a brain tumor. And this guy was the only guy who could treat them. Now quad 12 was famous throughout all of China for his abilities and moxibustion, Chinese medicine, acupuncture, and qigong, the style called Five animal Qigong, which he developed, and he developed for healing and longevity. And so Tao Tao was dying of this brain tumor, and he, he wanted how he wanted Watchtower to treat him. And Watteau resented being treated like a dog like a slave. So he said, you know, my wife is sick, I’m going to go back and take care of her which was like a two-day horse ride from the Emperor’s palace, and, and Tao flipped and he was like, sent him an emissary and you know, with a note saying, If you don’t come back, we’re going to behead you and what was said, Screw you. I’m not going, you know, basically. Yeah. And Tao had them delivered. And fatwa had like a little you know, there are a few different variations and stuff about this one variation was well had a little note, you know, he had the antidote for towel towels brain tumor, and he kept that little kind of joke’s on you in his pocket. This note that after they beheaded Quaqua, they found that No, and Tao Tao realized he just killed them, the only person who had the antidote for his brain tumor, but Moto is, is revered. Now in these five animals, Qi Gong is used and I learned this from, this is from a temple. And I learned pre-cultural revolution she going which is really important. That’s really important that people understand the differences between the pre-Cultural Revolution, Qigong, and post-Cultural Revolution. She goes, when I say pre Cultural Revolution, and post-communism, post-communism and pre communism, so before the communists, before the communist came in and did the culture, okay,


hold on, you’re gonna start monologuing I’m gonna stop there. I love it. I love it. Yeah, with the note, okay, the note that he found in his pocket now, is that irony is like, tell me like, okay.

Tevia 09:56

It’s kind of like the joke’s on you. Do you know?


So All right. So the reason why we have you on is you have a lot of understanding in different studies in different cultures, and understanding what it means to be a mentor because you’ve learned from many mentors, I know, that’s not just one many. And we’re focused on this podcast on helping leaders today redefine a new standard of leadership and all organizations and what that means. So I’m going to go in through a series of questions as far as with leaders, who are in charge of a team, what is some good advice that they can, that they can be as a mentor towards their own people?

Tevia 10:47

That’s a great question. You know, and I’ve worked with actually, you know, you’re talking about leaders of organizations, I’ve had, I’ve had students from all walks of life I’ve had from, you know, dirt poor with nothing left nada, you know, you know, a nickel to rub together with another but and I’ve had students who, you know, I’ve got one student, he sold his business from, you know, several billion

dollars, and was the super high powered CEO, absolute genius, I had another guy, he’s a hedge fund owner, and, and, you know, working with different people, especially with guys who run big organizations. So, so for example, the hedge fund owner, runs more than a four and a half billion dollar hedge fund, and he told me, he uses White Tiger Qigong to get into this flow state and to like, calm his emotions, and come from a neutral perspective, before making these $200 million decisions, which you know, he has to make instantaneously. So he has to be, you know, really, at his peak. And so this, what you need to do is you need to be able to calm the monkey mind and calm the firing of, you know, all the different neurochemicals that are firing in your brain and come to a state of equanimity of tranquility, that you can make a decision with absolute clarity. Okay. And that is what I think is really important for a leader to do.


So when we’ve had different experts come on, ones that focused on intermittent silence to understanding what it means to learn how to just take a moment and pause now with cheekbones Tell me a little bit about these steps that leadership can utilize to their benefit.

Tevia 12:48

Okay, so one of the first things people need to understand is that tension, and emotions are held in the body. Yes, and there’s a direct connection between the mind and the body. So in the Taoist Qigong practice, we say the spirit is intrinsically connected to the physical body, there’s no separation. And now we know from neuroscience, that that’s absolutely true. That is a law, that there’s no disconnection between what’s happening in our brain, and what’s happening in our body. Because when, for example, when you go through the emotion of worry or anxiety, that sends a neurochemical signal throughout the body and into the nervous system, and, you know it creates some type of tension, agreed. Now, if you have that tension now, then that goes back to the brain as well, you’re sent. So it’s like a Senate signal going back and forth in a loop. Okay, and now, you need to break that cycle. And you need to, so you need a physical action, and mental action, you need both. So people I think, are often the reason they can’t go deeper in this stuff is that they just going for the mental aspect. There’s an actual physical component to it. And so what this does the Qigong does is it loosens and softens the body, and it releases those chemicals that have been put into the body. And so the factual matrix is able to relax and the body can relax now, my breath can relax, my heart rate can relax, and now I can reprogram the mind with the program I want. Because if we look


at it, these tension points, that’s just points of energy. That’s, that’s been like, just like held, because we’re in a situation where we can’t expand it. So it’s like, oh, fuck, and you just kind of like just hold it right in there. And now you have like this big ass hump coming up.

Tevia 14:46

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. That just so you know, your brain, how it’s connected throughout the whole body through the nervous system is sending the signals. And that’s like, why when you’re in a car and you’re almost at an hour So you Brace yourself, it’s an automatic reaction. And we’re having these automatic reactions all day. Now, if you’re in, you know, in a high-performance organization, the pressures on you’re already tense as it is, and you’re going through these tension states constantly,

you have to be able to relieve the body of this tension so that the mind can relax. Because if the body is not relaxed, the mind can’t relax either. Definitely, to the deepest point,


definitely. Okay, that makes a lot of sense. Now with this practice, and leadership utilizing this practice, what are the benefits that go outside themselves, but on to the team, the workforce that perceives these leaders?

Tevia 15:41

Yeah. So when you have a leader that’s clear, calm, cool, and collected, and making decisions, without emotions, the whole team can feel that and that brings a sense of stability. And that person, that leader becomes the center of the organization. And that reverberates throughout the organization. And people feel that I mean, we’re sensitive to other people’s energy. So if someone’s putting off, you know, if you’re around a guy who is like nervous, you can feel it, even if he’s trying to hide it, or she’s trying to hide it, you can feel that nervous energy. You have ever been around one of those guys, they’re like, they’re almost shaking, when they talk, sometimes they’re just so they got some, it’s just too intense. And people feel that you know,


that was me as a kid. So I definitely had to outgrow that. But

Tevia 16:31

I definitely a lot of children are like that. Yeah.


So what now, this, this is great information, I wanted to just highlight a very universal application that can be applied and is very malleable in not just organizational leadership, but in, in culture, but it’s applied to anything. I mean, it this is, as a new form of meditation. So, yes, yes. Tell me more. Tell me more.

Tevia 17:05

Well, I mean, when you say it’s a new form of meditation, absolutely. But it’s actually 5000 years old. But it’s just now coming to the mainstream is just nasty. And I think the catalyst was COVID. And people recognize that they need health and wellness in their life. And that is important to take care of your body and mind is so important. I mean, we’re taking care of our fitness, we’re taking care of our money, but how many people are taking care of the mind for happiness and peace. I mean, that’s just as important to exercise as it is for your fitness and your and your pocket your wallet. So people are recognizing that now. So now it’s starting to come to the forefront. And what I’ve done is I fused neuroscience and sports science with an ancient practice called Qigong. So I worked with neuroscientists and sports science experts to create a really comprehensive curriculum that can really relate to this ancient practice and create something tangible that you can grasp and get effective results immediately.


Beautiful. So can you apply this? Is this a remote application that people can do? Or is this something they have to be in-person to experience?

Tevia 18:27

Well, it’s interesting, you say that, because prior to COVID, these travel restrictions, I was teaching around the world, in multiple countries, all year long. And when COVID hit, I realized, okay, we better shift to the online model, or we’re gonna get left in the dust. And so what I did is I recognize what I’m not good at. And that’s really helped. That’s all I can say, has helped me so much, and surround myself with people who are really good at what I’m bad at. So what I did is I found a woman who specializes in online education from Harvard University. She’s got a master’s degree in education and then specializes in online tech education. So I worked with her to create a university-style curriculum online that’s accessible, because the, you know, the battle that I had, that wrestled with my, in my own mind is how do I maintain the integrity of this powerful, deep, profound practice, but also get it in a cool way that we can get it online that people can work with, you know, around the world, and that is accessible to the absolute beginner who never heard of Qigong? You know, I get a lot of people to say, What’s this crack Gong is Qi Gong stuff you got, you know, I’m just because most people never heard of it before. I have to be able to explain to them what it is and she really helped me disseminate this information in a really tangible form. the format that anyone can grasp at any level. And that’s online. Yeah. Which is the beauty of it.


I like this like, Okay, this is great right here. So what was the most difficult part other than trying to relate something so powerful? But being able to distribute this, this practice without tainting it getting across different continents, but still having the exact same effect. Because when we look at different cultures, different time zones, different practices, what’s the norm, what’s not the norm, getting that across what was difficult, other than losing its efficiency? Well,

Tevia 20:41

luckily, I’ve already you know, I’ve been to 39 countries around the world. And so I’ve had exposure to many different cultures, I’ve had in one course in person, I’ve had up to peep from up to 27 Different countries in one course. And, you know, what I learned is to speak the common language that everybody in the world speaks. And, and we all have these basic human needs that come across all cultures, that’s, you know, you go to Maslow’s hierarchy of needs, and we all have that we all need that, that that stability, that, you know, we need that foundation, to feel okay and stable in our lives. And that has become, you know, a critical focal point. For most of the world now, with what’s happened with the pandemic, people losing their jobs, companies falling apart, going bankrupt, and then the tidal wave of people’s emotional instability, because of their monetary instability, because there is financial instability. So it’s all bleeding across all edges of the world. And so this, what I learned is to be able to break this down into small, digestible, bite-sized chunks, that people can really do this, this practice could take you years and years to master if you look at it from a broad perspective, but what we did is we isolated and broke it down into small digestible pieces, that people could learn one bit at a time and really become proficient in that. And you’ll feel a sense of accomplishment because of that. And that’s what we did. And it works. So I mean, what I teach online is a fraction of what I would teach in person, but we have to do it that way. Because that is how online material is digested the best. If I

inundate you with way too much material, you’re not going to get it and you’re going to get confused. And so we also have 75 instructors around the world, in our organization, so and that they help with, like life instructing online, if people need that, in addition to our pre-recorded material.


I love like, there’s a lot of places I want to take this, but I want to touch a little bit of a business aspect here on scalability. As far as reaching your target audience. Now you’re going across different cultures. I think a lot of businesses can take something away from this next question, as far as how were you able to connect with a target audience that is on different continents different just all over and still go after the people that want? What do you have?

Tevia 23:28

Okay, I’ll give, I’ll give you a couple of examples. So we identified three buckets. Okay, so the buckets are number one emotional balance, mobility, body balance, and peak performance. Okay, so everybody is looking to have peace and happiness, who in the world doesn’t want peace and happiness. And so, we created courses for the different emotions, like so we have qi gong for anger, to calm your anger, because the anger, anger is connected in Chinese medicine to the liver. And when we look at it from a neuroscience perspective, as well, when we integrate neuroscience with it, we got to understand what happens when we’re angry. And what happens then, when we look at sports science from a physical perspective. So we tie in the body and the emotions. So we have a different Qigong for all the different emotions, which is role comes in Chinese medicine. So I have all my courses that have Chinese medicine integrated and how that functions. Then we did the other bucket physical balanced body balance. So everybody who in the world 80% 90% of the world love back pain at some time in their life.

So I created a course Qigong for back pain. And I worked with sports science experts to help develop that course, in how this ancient practice can work with that. And then, peak performance because people across all cultures Teachers want to operate when they want to find their peak potential. What are you capable of in this world? So I’ve worked with people from all religions, all different races, all different nationalities, and they all want these three things. You know, they all want these three things. And so this speaks to them and healing, who doesn’t want to heal the traumas of the past, the stuff that might be holding you back from attaining your peak performance because those traumas and those emotions that you’ve been through in your life, those stay in the body, and fascist science has proven that just the way wood stores the traumas of its life, in the rings of the woods, when you cut a tree, you can see it, we store that in our fascist kinks in the body. And so to recognize that, feel that and remove that and release that from your life, you can change your whole self-perception. And then you can start to see through the things that have blocked you from achieving your peak performance. And your optimal being.


Yes, that beautiful well, well put there with the wood analogy. I love that. Okay, I want to, I want to hold that the trauma because we could, I could definitely go real deep into that. But as far as establishing collaboration, building camaraderie in a team, now, you as an instructor, your teaching and getting different exercises to occur for people that come from different backgrounds. But in a moment of time, you can get them to come together to accomplish the missing objective. What could you illustrate?

And what could you teach our junior leaders are our followers that are trying to become leaders, any tidbits of advice on what they could do to apply to their team that they’re in charge of?

Tevia 26:59

Yeah, so Well, just so we have almost 60,000 members, in white tiger Qigong, we got over 75 instructors around the world. And one of the things that I found is important in motivating not only myself, but everybody within our team is a true mission that you are passionate about, that you really believe in, that you can really stand behind. You know, I hear these missions, you know, we want to reach a million people, but why do you want to reach them want to reach a million people? What is your purpose, if it’s just to put money in the bank, that is not going to satisfy your, your need for contribution, you need to have to satisfy that need in your life for contribution? If you’re just satisfying your wallet, you’re going to get to a point where it’s not satisfying anymore. And I know you know, people with all the money in the world, they don’t have to work ever again. But they’re still working their ass off because they want to contribute, and they want to satisfy that need. And so finding what is your mission in life? If you were going to die tomorrow? What would you like to do? You know, your life is uncertain. We don’t know, what’s in store for tomorrow. You know, Yesterday is history tomorrow is a mystery. You know, we only have today. So, if you were to die tomorrow, what would you want to be remembered for? What is your legacy? And what did you try to do? So first I thought, you know, I dug deep, you know, I want to do something in my life that makes a positive impact on humanity, and the earth. Okay, so the earth, you know, the environment, the animals. So number one, I started supporting a book, The Borneo Nature Foundation, which is, which is supporting the wildlife, in the jungles that are being destroyed by you know, deforestation, okay, which I really have a passion for that. And it breaks my heart to see what happens to these wild animals, as their life is destroyed. So that really moves me emotionally. And so I want to contribute to that to help protect that. And so if I’m going to live well, I want the animals and in the end, I want nature to be good. So I want nature and my environment to thrive. Next is humanity. And we all are living together. And I see we’re living in these times we’re living in, in the in Chinese medicine, we’re living in the metal time, which is the time of destruction. So it’s all part of a cycle. We all think that like, you know, this is just random, but it’s not. These are common cycles after the metal comes a winter. The winter will be dark for a while, but then we’ll come spring again. And there’s a rebirth. So there’s a rebirth that’s going to come out of this destruction that’s happening right now. So in this destructive cycle that’s going to be followed by a winter And then it’s going to come into rebirth and there’s going to be new life that is going to be, you know, our life is going to change dramatically from, from our generation to the next is going to be a completely different world. And we’re witnessing this the most dramatic change in our history, you know, right now, before our eyes. And so I want to make a contribution to humanity that, you know, I’ll never forget, when I did wilderness survival training when I was young, one of the things they always said when you go into a campground or in hiking, leave it nicer than when you came. And I want to leave this earth better than when I then when I came here. So this is what can I do within my power? What’s my skill set? What am I passionate about? Well, I’ve seen this Qigong change lives, I’ve seen people who were professional dancers, with Parkinson’s disease, can’t move their body and then be able to move their body and start to move and start to come alive again, and their tears coming out of their eyes. I’ve watched people with terminal cancer, terminally ill, who are dying and had their last days but brought peace into their life. You know, this moved me, this touched my heart, and this connection to people and witnessing how people’s suffering can transform into peace in their last days. And that, for me, is what

I want to be for my friends, my family, and all the people I come into contact with, is to be that crutch and to show through my own experience, how I went through suffering through profound suffering, into, into a way of thriving in this life, and to share that that gift is is what I want.


That’s beautiful. It’s very beautiful. And as a leader, being able to illustrate that illustrate your passions, your desires, and articulate that is how you can influence your followers is because you have a common mission. And that’s something that’s bigger than them and that they want to be a part of, let me backtrack, you said, cycles that things happen in cycles. Now, for me, I’m very aware of that with myself where I’m, I have my moments where I’m on it, I’m in the gym, I’m reading, I’m doing my meditation, my stretching, and then there’s times where I’m just like, Fuck it, man, I don’t want to do a damn thing and just eat carbs and just be lazy. Is there any like relation with the on a macro level to a micro level? Of course, there is. But anything that you know that I would like to know, as far

Tevia 32:41

as well, I’m going to relate it back to Chinese medicine, because that is where this medical Qigong comes from. And this is yin and yang, you have young that young time where you’re in the gym, you’re, you know, you’re going for broke, you’re putting your all-out effort in, and then you need that opposite time, that Yin time to go within. And that’s bringing your balance. So when you have one extreme, you have the other extreme to balance it. So this is life balancing itself. And that’s your body finding its equilibrium. Okay, so you’re trying to find that balance of yin and yang,

Tevia 33:14

okay, if I’m going too much on the Yin, then the Young’s gonna somehow find its way in and it’s like, Well, Greg, you’re, you’re gonna be fucked. Because if you’re gonna take a break for a week straight, I’m just gonna take you down for what week to

Tevia 33:29

Yeah, well, in Chinese in the teaching, the Book of Changes is a 5000-year-old book of the algorithm of nature. And that is, when you reach one extreme to the tipping point, you’re going to flip into the opposite extreme.


Wow, I never heard of it. articulate that way. I really liked them.

Tevia 33:47

And so let me give you an example. Let’s say the person who’s working so much they’re burning out as I tell you, I worked with this billionaire, he had built this company from scratch from zero and to multi-billions of dollars. And he worked himself to death, literally, he was dying of cancer, he had to quit everything. And he had to completely change his life. And, and he otherwise he was going to die. And he knew it. He was on his last days. So he completely changed everything. And he stopped working altogether, sold his business made 2 billion that pocketed $2 billion. Then he got the best medical help he possibly could. He changed his diet completely. He changed his entire lifestyle which was GO GO GO GO GO GO GO, which burned him out and drained him and made him a lot of money, but it

drained his life for so you pay a price one way or the other. You know, you sacrifice something to gain something. So anyway, he did. Qi Gong was one of the things that he attributed his health and wellness to and now he’s still alive and he beat his cancer. So that is an example of one you know, flipping from one extreme to another.


That’s really interesting. Let’s segue over to trauma Now, for, for someone who is in a leadership position, you have employees who have experienced trauma now what is something they can do or as do as mentors or as coaches to tailor their, their delivery, so that they can be the best, most effective coach or leader for them?

Tevia Rothman 35:24

For someone working with trauma, yes. Okay. So for a coach or someone working with trauma, they need to, number one, have empathy. That is put yourself in that person’s shoes. And can you. So for me, one reason why I like to work with people with trauma is that I’ve been through a lot of trauma, so I can relate. And I can feel their pain. And I want, I have this genuine desire to want to help them turn that around. I want to show them how they can turn around how I turned it around for myself. And so by sharing my experience, I don’t teach someone like you do this, you do that, or I did this, do this, I share from my experience, okay, this is what I did. And this is what I did with this guy, and this guy and this guy, and this worked. And this might be able to work for you. But you have to believe in it yourself. First. Number one, that’s the most important thing, one thing I recognize is you cannot motivate a person to be motivated about their life, they have to have that internal motivation. So I’m not a Tony Robbins. I’m not gonna I’m not here to say, Yeah, let’s rock and let’s do it. I’m here. Once you already have that internal motivation, you want that change, then I’m here to work with you, and to show you the way and give you the tools because I’m not going to do it for you. I’m not a magic man, I’m not going to wave a magic wand and make you all better. You’re going to have to do the work. But I’m going to show you the way. I’m going to show you the way that worked for me


like that. Now, what if they don’t want your solicited feedback, then? What? What could you do next in this situation?

Tevia 37:02

Well, that’s the thing is I I never have to get any, I never have to sell anybody on anything. Because, you know, I used to teach out of my backyard making 20 bucks an hour and barely making enough to survive. You know, I’ve lived on rice noodles, because I couldn’t afford to eat anything else. You know, I’ve been really poor and down broke. And I still refuse to sell anything. You know, like that. So, people who want it, I share what I’ve got, and the people who want it, they come and they come in droves. We’ve got like, you know, I think the numbers speak for themselves. The fact that we’ve got almost 60,000 Members, we have over 100,000 people a month come on our website, we hit a million impressions a month on social media, you know, there are people, there are enough people who you have to have something that people genuinely want that you don’t need to sell it sells itself. That’s my opinion.


Interesting. Okay. Now, here’s, I feel like you would have a unique perspective about this next question. What comes first? Is it the leader or the follower? And what’s the process of both?

Tevia 38:15

That’s a good question. So first, the leader has had to be a follower at some time in their life, right? So we all have a teacher. So you have to come in with that beginner’s mindset. So I had no matter where you are at in your leadership stage, as well. I know, all I know, you know, leaders who are, you know, incredible leaders, they still have mentors, and they’re still learning. So you always have to come from that beginner’s mindset, no matter where you are at in life. So you are the follower and you are the leader, you have to be both. And that is the yin and yang within you, as well. That is to be the ultimate leader. You have to also know how to be a follower because then you’ll have empathy for your followers and you’ll understand them so deeply.


That’s, that’s, that’s well put now with a beginner’s mindset. Would you say the essence of that is curiosity?

Tevia 39:12

Absolutely. It’s always looking at a child to learn. They’re so curious, you know, they’re so curious, what does this mean? What does this do? Why is this and they ask that you know, children are famous for you know, saying, Why, why, why, why it doesn’t bother me. Some people get bothered, it doesn’t bother me, I’m so excited to share. I’m like, Oh, this is why this and this, and this, this, this, and I can go on all day with a kid who says Why, why? You know, I love it. I was just sitting down with a child today and they were like, what they were pointing at a magazine. What’s this? What’s this? What’s this? Literally, I barely had time to answer that first question. So having that curiosity, I mean, look at some of the greatest thinkers of our world, you know, yet Albert Einstein, he was, he always said, you know, be like in a childlike wonder state, you know, be in that always Curious state always be curious. Always want to know more. That’s how I went down the road these rabbit holes are I always wanted to know more. I’m like, What’s this? What does this mean? And why? Always keep asking why, and dig deeper? And that’s where you’re going to get answers because I’m a truth seeker. You know, we’re living in a world with smoke and mirrors, you don’t know what to believe these days, you don’t know what’s real. You read this thing. And this guy says this, and this other guy says this, your friend says this, the other friend says that you know, nobody, you don’t know what to leave, you have to dig deep and really do the investigation. work yourself to understand. And so that’s what I do is I just I have this relentless curiosity, relentless curiosity. That’s what I’m going to say.


Hell yeah. Oh, yeah, like that. Now, let’s transition to closing here. What is one piece of advice that you could leave our audience with, that will change their lives right now and get them into a better state of mind?

Tevia Rothman 40:57

So we need to think to stop thinking of ourselves. And we need to think of humanity as a whole as an interconnectedness. So we’re all connected to each other. And what you do will affect the people around you in your immediate circle of life or humanity in concentric circles. So what you do affects your immediate inner circle, and that affects that outer circle, and it ripples like through a pond. Okay, so what you do is go into, how do you want your children to be? How do you want your children? Think of how you want them to be what you are responsible for your next generations? How are we going to leave this world for the next generations, we need to consider that whether you have a daughter or a son or you don’t have children yet? Or if you don’t, if you want to think of the children that are alive today, and what we’re doing for them, What world are we going to leave them? You know, are we going to leave the chaos and destruction? Or we’re going to live the love and, and the earth can be paradise, this earth can be paradise


like that. Now, my last question here. If you could pick up the phone and call your 20-year-old self, what would you tell them?

Tevia 42:10

That’s a great question. I would say to my 20-year-old self, I was kind of cocky when I was 20 years old. I thought I knew I thought I had the answers actually. I would say shut up. Keep your beginner’s mindset. Keep your curiosity you don’t know shit. That’s what I would tell my 20-year-old self you don’t know shit. Okay, wake up and, and keep learning. That’s what I would say.


relatable, very relatable. Now, is there anything else that I have not asked you that you would like to share with the audience?

Tevia 42:52

I mean, I got a million things. But keep it focused on this you know, this the what the gift that I believe that I can offer and I can share with the world forever who’s open to receive that is through White Tiger Qi Gong. This Qi Gong changed my life. I’ve healed myself through incredible traumas, incredible physical injuries. I’ve worked with people, like I said, from all walks of life and seen incredible results from the guy who had nothing who was broken homeless, to the person who had a terminal illness, cancer, to you know, high-performance hedge fund manager and CEO to World Champion athletes. And I’ve seen this Qi Gong work incredible results. And so I stand behind it. I think everybody should try it. My mission is to reach 10% of the world, why 10% of the world because that is the scientific number for the tipping point. And that’s a realistic number of people we can reach. And so I want to reach a tipping point of the world to help shift human consciousness to connect and love themselves. When we love ourselves. We can love each other and love the Earth that we’re living on. If we don’t first love ourselves, we won’t love each other. There’s no way it’s impossible. This Qigong will teach you how to connect with yourself. Appreciate having compassion for yourself, love yourself, heal yourself, and that will then reverberate throughout mankind. That’s beautiful.


Well, put, how can our audience get in touch with you if they want to learn more?

Tevia 44:39

White Tiger Qi gong.com That’s white. Everybody knows how to spell White Tiger everyone else but Tiger she goes nobody knows how to spell that. So that’s QIGONGQI gog.com White Tiger qigong.com We got a million free YouTube videos really great YouTube. Shanell tons of free resources. If you don’t want to spend a dime, I don’t care I got so much free stuff for you that that you can spend literally months and working through my free content. If you want to go deeper, we have online courses and ebooks that are available for very cheap, too, you know more in-depth courses depending on what level you want to take. So I hope that we can meet sometime in the future.


Beautiful. I will link everything in the show notes. So we get that distributed out. And that is it for today. I really do appreciate you coming to your transformation station.

Tevia 45:37

Oh, I want to leave all your viewers with a free ebook as well. Oh, awesome. listeners. Oh, yeah. So I’ll get you that in the link so you can give everyone that gift. Beautiful.


Thank you so much. I will be sure to link that in there.

Tevia 45:51

Awesome. Thank you so much.


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